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Tribulation, Rapture then Great Tribulation

I am seeing most Christians today trusting their leaders/pastors so much to guide them to the truth that could ultimately lead them to be deceived in the end or even destruction.  I say this because I hear a lot Christians say they think that God's Word is too hard to understand; but did God not say "Seek and ye shall find"? Jesus left to go prepare a place for us...before He left He didn't leave us with nothing.  He left us with His Holy Spirit to guide us to truth.  So we ALL have the ability to understand the Bible. We just need a firm understanding and foundation before we build on sinking sand. 

 

The more I listened to preachers/teachers on the Pre-Trib subject, the more confused I got. 1 Corinthians 14:33 - For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

 

I have a deep desire to know the truth, even if it's not what I want to hear or want to believe because it's a bit uncomfortable, but it is what it is.  Love the truth; I don't want to be the elect who will be decieved. 

 

Matthew 24:24  For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that if possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

 

There will be a counterfeit Messiah ("another Jesus")and an end time delusion and we (elect) will be here for it. 2 Thess 2:3 says that the Anti-Christ will be revealed (that's after the delusion) The motive for the Pre-Trib rapture is so we never see or look for the Anti-Christ.  We need to be rooted in the truth now so we're not blindsided by it.  If we believe we are raptured before the Anti-Christ is revealed (Pre-trib) then our eye's and ears will not be open to see and hear. Over and over I hear from several Pre-Trib teachers "Don't look for the Anti-Christ, Look up for Christ".  But Jesus tells us "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in My Name, claiming I am the Christ, and will deceive many" (Matthew 24:4)

 

 

Painting 'Armageddon' done by Artist:  Jan Douglas Bish (My Dad;-)

 

2 Timothy 4:3

 

For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

 

The scripture below is the one I find that is used the most and twisted by Pre-trib teachers:

2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV)

1  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at handLet no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

I read that scripture SO many times trying to figure out how all these teachers use this very scripture to convince their listeners that we will be raptured BEFORE the man of sin (Anti-Christ) is revealed. Paul is explaining that we will be gathered unto our Lord Jesus AFTER the falling away AND that man of sin is revealed.

It is important to know before we dive into this, that there is tribulation and Great tribulation. The Great Tribulation is God’s Wrath, which does not come until in middle of the 7 yrs.  We are not destined for His wrath. 

  

1 Thessalonians 1:10, "and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath."

1 Thessalonians 5:9, "For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Romans 5:9 "Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!"

Ephesians 5:6 "Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient."

 

Matthew 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

Jesus says when you see the abomination that causes desolation (I get into that topic in my "Temple Deception" page but the abomination is NOT the destruction of the Third Temple like I hear Pre-trib preachers teach!) THEN shall be GREAT tribulation and those days (Great Tribulation days) will be shortened but His wrath doesn’t come until AFTER the Anti-Christ is revealed, after he breaks the 7 year covenant (peace treaty). The first 3 1/2 years will be order out of chaos (chaos they created).  It will be false hope. 

 

Matthew 24

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

Every teaching I hear from Pre-Tribulation Pastors conveniently stop there to prove that time is when Jesus come in His great glory at the END of the 7 years.  But let US continue to the very next verse:

 

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

Remember there is tribulation (we will be here for that) but the Great Tribulation we will be rescued.  Pre-Trib believers teach that the "Second Coming" is the "visual return of Christ" which is at the end of the 7 year Tribulation. If that's the case then how is the above scripture correct???

 

The only scripture I could find that specifies Jesus "second coming": is the following:

 

Hebrews 9:28 - So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

There you have it.  When he "appears the second time" at that time we (unto them that look for him) will be saved/raptured. 

A lot of Pre-tribers also teach that at the the time of the resurrection for the dead elect and our rapture does not also include the non-believing or evil dead. Let's just clarify real quick with a few scriptures:

Daniel 12:2 "Many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace and everlasting contempt.

Matthew 25:46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

John 5:28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice.

John 5:29and come out--those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

John 11:24 Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day." (Speaking of her brother Lazarus)

Acts 24:15 and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

They teach when "Jesus returns in great glory with all his angels is at the end of of the 7 years".  I suppose they teach that because when he comes with great glory, it will be bright, every one see.  When he come with all his angels, that's when they say the battle of Armageddon will happen.  Read the following scriptures:

 

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

1 Thessalonians 3:13
May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.

The above scripture specifies that God and Jesus are coming together.

2 Thessalonians 1:7
and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels.

 

There's that 'blazing fire' the refining/brimstone fire. 

 

The Return of the Son of Man
26men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27"Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory. 28"But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

 

Jesus tells his disciples

Matthew 26:64  the next time you see me; You will see me on the right hand side of God.

 

Jesus confirms again that He will come with God next time we see Him. Confirming the "Coming of the Son of Man" and "The Day of the Lord" are at the same time. 

 

King James Bible
Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

 

As it was in the days of Noah and Lot "It will be JUST LIKE THAT." So we know that the people were corrupt, Nephilim, oblivious, etc. but I noticed something that I never heard taught. 

 

How long did it take after the Lord shut the door to Noah's Ark before it began to rain?

 

How long did it take after the 2 angels brought Lot and his family outside of the city before God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorah?

 

Luke 17

 

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained (1) fire and (2) brimstonefrom heaven, and destroyed them all.30  Even thus shall it be in the day when the (1) Son of man is revealed.

Strong Concordance for Fire (Interesting)

(1)     Fire: A primary word; "fire" (literally or figuratively, specifically lightning):—fiery, fire.

  1. Brimstone: (in its originalsense of flashing); TDNT - 3:122,*; n n

The same "lightning" that lights from East to West when Jesus comes to gather us, is the same fire and brimstone that will purify us and scorch the others since they're without His spirit.

Luke 17:24

For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

Strong Concordance for brimstone (VERY Interesting):

 1) brimstone

   1a) divine incense, because burning brimstone was regarded as having

       power to purify, and to ward off disease

 He comes to purify with brimstone, reward and judge all at the same time of His coming.

Revelation 11:18

18 The nations were angry,
    and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
    and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
    both great and small—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

 

So THE time has come for Rewards, Judging and Wrath. At this time, the way we will recieve our new glorious bodies is through refining fire (for us) consuming fire (for them)

Refined by the fire; Watch this

Zechariah 13:8"It will come about in all the land," Declares the LORD, "That two parts in it will be cut off and perish; But the third will be left in it. 9"And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them; I will say, 'They are My people,' And they will say, 'The LORD is my God.'"
The two parts in that fire are the tares that will be bundled up FIRST then the third who are 'left in it' are the wheat that will be put into his 'barn' until indignation (Wrath) runs its course.
1 Peter1:7so that the proof of your faith, being more precious than gold which is perishable, even though tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
1 Corinthians 3:13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work.

Psalm 84:11
For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD bestows favor and honor; no good thing does he withhold from those whose walk is blameless.

 

The parable's of the wheat and tare's are of course the same as the elect (wheat) and evil (weeds).  Keeping that in mind the following scriputre verifies that the weeds will be destroyed FIRST by the same refining fire:

 

The Parable of the Wheats and Weeds Matthew 13

 

24 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared.

 

27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’

 

28 “‘An enemy did this,’ he replied.

 

“The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’

29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: FIRST collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; THEN gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”

 

So if we are to be raptured BEFORE this Refining and Destroying fire, how would it be possible for the Tares to be bundled and burned BEFORE the Wheat is gathered? Plus, that fire is how we will receive our new glorious bodies since flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. This fire doesn't happen until after the middle of the 7 years.  Continued:

 

Matthew 13 v 36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, (not before tribulation) and the harvesters are angels. (At the four corners of the earth)

40 As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43  THEN the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Whoever has ears, let them hear.

 

What's amazing to think about...We all know the scripture that we will not proceed those who have fallen asleep....We are going to see all of this happening before we enter our safe chamber!!  Whenever the bible says 'whoever has ears, let them hear' I have noticed there is a deeper meaning than meets the eye (reading in between the lines so to speak) and they are also the very scriptures that have been pervertedly twisted. 

 

For example it is widely taught that the separation of the Sheep and Goats happens at the end of the 7 year tribulation.  There are several reasons that is not possible.  I will list them below. There is a ONE time only event this separation occurs:

The Wheats and Tares 

10 Virgins

Talents

Sheeps from Goats are all parables of one time. 

 

 

Matt 25:10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Simultaneous one-time event.

Luke 13:26"Then you will begin to say, 'We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets'; 27and He will say, 'I tell you, I do not know where you are from; DEPART FROM ME, ALL YOU EVILDOERS.'28"In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but yourselves being thrown out.…

So everyone will see our ‘rapture’ and resurrection, except they aren’t allowed to go through that door.

Luke 13:25
Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, 'Sir, open the door for us.' "But he will answer, 'I don't know you or where you come from.'

Can you picture this? If we are raptured in secret…why does Jesus say over and over again that they will try to go through the same door they see us going through that is shut right behind us and in their face?

King James Bible
Isaiah 26:20  Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

The reason why false (or misinformed) prophets teach Pre-Trib is to make people think that there will be some people saved through Tribulation and so we are not looking for the deceipt of the Anti-Christ.  He wants to catch these Pre-Trib believers by surprise (the elect who is deceived).

Before we examine Sheep from Goats, I will do my best to summarize an entire study in a few words.  It is widely taught Sheep/Goat separation is at the end of the 7 yr tribulation. 

Several reasons again this is not true and contradicts Gods Word. I get into this study on my “Millennium” page.

In a nut shell; No one, will survive through tribulation (except the 12 tribes of Isreal: Matt 19:28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. ) No flesh will be be saved through God's Wrath (Matt 24:22  there should no flesh be saved) no one will be granted to live through the Millennium except the 12 tribes.  No flesh and blood will inherit the Kingdom of God. The ONLY ones that will survive through God’s Wrath are Judah and Israel (2 sticks that became one) because they are God’s first love (those who are first will be last).Jeremiah 30:7, "Alas! for that day is great, There is none like it; And it is the time of Jacob’s distress, But he will be saved from it."

God put their dry bones together, but did not give them their glorified bodies yet because they are not considered righteous and have some redeeming to do. Plus, God wants them to witness what He will do, so they will FINALLY realize that He IS their God and they ARE His people. They are raised out of their graves and gathered to Israel where they will be protected for the last 1290 days. This happens when Gog and Magog War begins:

Ezekiel 37:12"Therefore prophesy and say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will open your graves and cause you to come up out of your graves, My people; and I will bring you into the land of Israel. 13"Then you will know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves and caused you to come up out of your graves.

Zephaniah 3:20 "At that time I will bring you in, Even at the time when I gather you together; Indeed, I will give you renown and praise Among all the peoples of the earth, When I restore your fortunes before your eyes," Says the LORD.

God says 'right before your eyes' He wants Isreal to see this. 

My point is:  There isn't going to be any 'Goats' left at the end of the 7 year tribulation to separate!!!

 

The Sheep and the Goats

Matthew 25:31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, (Remember all the verses about coming in his glory with his angels?) he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

 

33 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

This is when we are refined by fire, receive our glorious bodies.

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me…..

Then, watch this:

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.

You caught that? Prepared for the Devil. So that means that the devil is NOT there YET. Therefor that proves the Sheep and Goat separation happens before the end of the tribulation.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

There you have it.

 This is when he returns in his glory with angels with him to The jews that will be saved through the Great tribulation are never called 'righteous'.

The Return of the Son of Man
26men fainting from fear and the expectation of the things which are coming upon the world; for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27"Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory. 28"But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

That 'redemption' is ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.
Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

 The one's on his left are going to a place BEFORE the devil and angels are locked up for 1000 years, which happens at the end of tribulation. 

Malachi 4

 The Great Day of the Lord
1"For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze," says the LORD of hosts, "so that it will leave them neither root nor branch." 2"But for you who fear My name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings; and you will go forth and skip about like calves from the stall.

That's beautiful;  "The SUN of Righteousness" "The Lord is a SUN AND a SHIELD". 

I've heard some Pre-trib believers teach that when Jesus comes like a thief (I suppose since thieves are sneaky and quiet) that's when we are raptured.  The following scripture doesn't sound very quiet to me:

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

I've also heard other Pre-Trib believers teach that The Day of Lord comes like a thief with His Wrath and give the following scripture to prove THEIR point:

The Day of the Lord

1 Thess 5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

But they conveniently stop there. Let's continue to verse 4:

But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness.

~~ So if we're raptured by then, how would the Day of the Lord "surprise us like a thief"? Unless we're still here.

Also another scripture to prove that we will still be here when he comes like a thief;

Revelation 16:15 - Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed [is] he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Pre-Trib believers think that when all the earth will mourn and see Jesus coming on the clouds it's talking about at the end of Tribulation.  I think they believe that because they've been taught that our rapture is going to be a sudden disappearance with no explanation to those who are "left behind".  The following scripure says otherwise:

Matthew 26:29“Immediately after the distress of those days

“ ‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’b

30“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthc will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

 

Here too when the whole earth mourns for him is when he will 'gather his elect from one end to the other'  So then, how are we to believe our 'rapture' is before the 7 yr tribulation?  If the whole earth mourns for Him at that time, then how could the Anti-Christ deceive everyone for 3 1/2 years???

 

Have you even known God to do one thing at a time?  How can we possibly believe in Pre-trib by now? The bible says over and over that with that same fire "at the time of harvest" "at the end of days" is the SAME fire that is poured at the SAME time we are refined (with our glorious new bodies). When something has been drilled in our head for years, it becomes ingrained.  It's like we have to forget everything we have been taught and study without outside influence (except His spirts guidance of course).

1 Corinthians 1:8
He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Speaking about summarizing everything in a nut shell. Revelation 11 says it all and in consecutive order too!

Revelation 11 King James Version

11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

The ‘temple of God’ is us!!! His elect. We are God’s temple (very important to remember for several reasons)

But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

The one’s without the temple are destined for God’s Wrath that will come upon them in 3 ½ years.

And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

I believe these two witnesses are Enoch (rather than Moses since he did die) and Elijah since Hebrew 9:27 says:And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment

These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

These have power to shut heaven,that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

This is our call too!! The 7th trumpet

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Who else would give glory to God if we are already raptured at this time??? The earthquake is the places that were not measured (for the Gentiles)

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Bada boom bang, just like that. I didn’t hear any stuttering or anything that could possibly mean that all of that was sporadic, did you???

19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

We’re in, the door is closed. His Wrath and indignation has begun.

Rev 19:6 Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:

  “Hallelujah!
    For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
Let us rejoice and be glad
    and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
    and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean,
    was given her to wear.”

  Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

Isaiah 29:6
the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Isaiah 66:15
See, the LORD is coming with fire, and his chariots are like a whirlwind; he will bring down his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Isaiah 66:16
For with fire and with his sword the LORD will execute judgment on all people, and many will be those slain by the LORD.

 Coming of Son of Man

 

Matt 24 v 36"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37"For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38"For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark

 

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.

 

Matthew 24:27
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

Matthew 24:30
"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.


The Coming of the Kingdom

Luke 17 v 20 Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed,21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.

1) within, inside

   1a) within you i.e. in the midst of you

   1b) within you i.e. your soul

1 Corinthians 15:22

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive

The above scripture is why I believe that Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses. Since they were taken up to Heaven without dieing.

The “Great Tribulation” is when God’s Wrath begins. The Tribulation begins with the Anti-Christ signs the Peace Treaty.

Daniel 12:1

At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

Rev 2 v 20

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into GREAT tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

The Day of the Lord

 

Isaiah 2:12 (ESV)

12  For the Lord of hosts has a day against all that is proud and lofty, against all that is lifted up—and it shall be brought low;

Isaiah 13:6 (ESV)

Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; as destruction from the Almighty it will come!

Isaiah 13:6 (ESV)

Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; as destruction from the Almighty it will come!

Isaiah 13:9 (ESV)

Behold, the day of the Lord comes, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger, to make the land a desolation and to destroy its sinners from it.

Ezekiel 13:5 (ESV)

You have not gone up into the breaches, or built up a wall for the house of Israel, that it might stand in battle in the day of the Lord.

Ezekiel 30:3 (ESV)

For the day is near, the day of the Lord is near; it will be a day of clouds, a time of doom for the nations

Amos 5:18 (ESV)

18  Woe to you who desire the day of the Lord! Why would you have the day of the Lord? It is darkness, and not light,

2 Peter 3:10 (ESV)

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.

Zephaniah 1:14–18 (ESV)

14  The great day of the Lord is near, near and hastening fast; the sound of the day of the Lord is bitter; the mighty man cries aloud there. 15  A day of wrath is that day, a day of distress and anguish, a day of ruin and devastation, a day of darkness and ...

 

Gary Stearman states:

As part of His message to the Church of Thyatira, Jesus refers to a woman called “Jezebel.” Because of her unrepentant attitude, He promises to hurl her into the vast arena of judgment:

“Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds” (Rev. 2:22).

A bit later in Revelation, the Apostle John is seen in heaven, as he views an immense number of people. One of the twenty-four elders stands nearby, and John asks him to identify this group. The elder’s answer specifically links them to this period of judgment:

“And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (Rev. 7:14).

Two Witnesses

Revelation 11

1)      “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers.But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles.

2)      They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days.

A)     They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying;

B)      They have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

3)      After the 1260 days: the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them.

4)      3 ½ days:  Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified.For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

5)      13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

The Seventh Trumpet

15 The seventh angel (Michael) sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying:

“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
    the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
    and have begun to reign.
18 The nations were angry,
    and your wrath has come. (We weren’t destined for His Wrath)
The time has come for judging the dead, (Goats to the Left, Sheep to the right)
    and for rewarding your servants the prophets (Wedding)
and your people who revere your name,
    both great and small—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.

Rev 7 v 9

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Great Tribulation is God’s Wrath!

Gary Stearman states:

As Pretribulationists, we hold to the doctrine of imminency, the faith that the Lord might return at any moment, without any preceding hint or warning.

Now that statement concerned me very much since:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Ecclesiastes 3:11.  But God did tell us exactly what has happened, what IS happening and what will happen.  It's just that our eyes have been veiled from seeing it.

Gary Stearman states:

When Paul writes about the Rapture in Second Thessalonians, it is on the ground that the church will be caught up before the antichrist declares himself that he is God. This, he does in a Jewish Temple: (he does “this, in” God’s temple, important thing to remember for a later time)

“Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

“Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God” (2 Th. 2:3,4).

Here, Paul links the rapture, which comes first, to the event in the Temple, which comes second.

Could Paul be ANY more clear when he said that day (rapture) will NOT come unless (before) the son of lawlessness is revealed. Let NO ONE deceive you.

Or twist the scripture.

Gary Stearman states:

And a dominant apostasy prior to the revelation of antichrist strongly indicates that the restraining action of the body of Christ has been removed. Paul says that only then will the “lawless one” be revealed.

No he did NOT

Without a doubt, Paul is arguing for the catching-away of the Church, prior to the Tribulation. But he does so in the context of actions that require Israel to have a functioning Temple, either at the time of the Rapture, or shortly thereafter.  Christians have watched with great interest, as groups like the Temple Mount Faithful and Jerusalem Temple Institute prepare for a coming Temple.

John 2:19  King James Bible
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. 20The Jews then said, "It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?"…

 Don’t be confused like the Jews were, We ARE the temple of God. Do you think that the 2 Witnesses are killed right where Jesus was sacrificed and resurrected in 3 days a coincidence? Or is God trying to tell us something?

Rev 11 v 8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

11And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

The 2 witnesses are the dead that gets raised along with all the other dead. Then we that will not proceed the ones who have fallen asleep will meet them in the clouds TOGETHER.

Gary Stearman states:

Suppose for a moment that next year, circumstances somehow force Israel to be dispersed throughout the world, just as they were in A.D. 135, when Hadrian’s armies destroyed Jerusalem once and for all, renaming it Aelia Capitolina. And suppose that the Arabs create a new Palestine, renaming Jerusalem, their new capital, as Al Quds. Under these circumstances, the possibility of a rebuilt Temple would become impossibly remote. Would Christians then be fervently awaiting the Rapture and Tribulation scenario that is now so common? Absolutely not! Prophetic fulfillment requires the presence of national Israel.

Speak for yourself! So THAT’S why the Arabs are fight so hard to get into Jerusalem!! To destroy the temple….so the elect will be deceived into thinking that Jesus is not coming for us to make way for the Anti-Christ.

If, God forbid, such a thing happened, Christians would again be looking for Israel’s return, and re-capture of the Temple Mount, just as some of them were doing in the nineteenth century. If Israel is not in the Land, latter-day prophecy cannot be fulfilled.

That’ IS the plan then…scary part about it is that Gary Stearme wrong knows about it!

Daniel 9:25 (KJV)

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment (peace treaty?) to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Which tells me that they are planning on tearing that temple down if they are building it AGAIN in troublous times. Meanwhile the Anti-Christ is ruling and deceiving God’s elect (if that were possible.

In so many movies I have noticed that they frequently say and gloat “You’ll NEVER see me com’n.”

What this key verse, very important:

Mark 14:58
"We heard him say, 'I will destroy this temple made with human handsand in three days will build another, not made with hands.'"

Matthew 26:61
and declared, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.'"

Matthew 27:40
and saying, "You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, save yourself! Come down from the cross, if you are the Son of God!"

Revelation…2  And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the seal of the living God; and he cried out with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, 3saying, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees until we have sealed the bond-servants of our God on their foreheads."

Revelation 9:4
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.

1 Thessalonians 4:16

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, (When Michael stand up, Michael IS the Angel of God…Who is LIKE God)and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Revelation 11 v 15 The seventh angel (Michael) sounded his trumpet, (the last trump) and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
    the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
    and he will reign for ever and ever.”

~~~~~~~~~~~~Parable~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1 Thessalonians 4:17   King James Bible

16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (Michael) and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

(This is when God says Come Up Hither to the Two Witnesses 3 ½ days after the Beast from the Abyss kills them, then the dead rise, then we join them in the clouds. Also when obviously the Anti-Christ breaks the covenant as well since the beast took over) A lot happens that “hour”)

Revelation Chapter 11

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1And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

3And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

7And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

8And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

9And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

10And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

11And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,

17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

 Then Goats to the Left and Sheep to the right)

17Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18Therefore comfort one another with these words.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Numbers 14:34, "After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise."

Ezekiel 4:5-6, "For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year."

Matt 24 v 25

Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:22ESV / 21 helpful votes

And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.

 

The First Woe

 

Revelation chapter 9 follows with a description of the next two trumpets.  This is where I believe we see a shift of natural or man made disasters to disasters that are loosed via supernatural powers of darkness, which is the reason for the proclamation of the three woes…as if to say – it is really going to be terrible from this point on.  The fifth angel sounds and John tells us that he saw a star (angelic being) fall from heaven to the earth and to this star was given the key to the bottomless pit…

 

“And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
Revelation 9:2-12

Next, the sixth trumpet is sounded…

“And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.”
Revelation 9:13-21

We’ve already seen one fallen angel loosed from the bottomless pit to command all kinds of spiritual wickedness to inflict man.  Now we have four fallen angels loosed from their chains from somewhere beneath the Euphrates river.  The result here is that one third of the population of Earth is killed…and still mankind will have not repented.  It is important to keep in mind that while this is all happening the church will be going through the Earth proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ!

Revelation 12:12 says “Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”  The third woe is Satan being cast down and confined to the earth. His wrath will then be fully manifested and vented on humans through a human.  Now Satan’s attention is turned to the Jews, because it is through the Jews that salvation comes (Jesus Christ) and he will persecute them as never before (Revelation 12:13-17).  The woman in verse 14 is the remnant of the Jews.

 

 

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